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發表於 2015-6-13 16:41:35 | 顯示全部樓層
如果針對時下嘅朋友仔,,有AF已經會好多人轉會,因為快拍影人等等係時下年青人買機因素

其實Leica走兩條路線,一條係現時M系手動而另ㄧ方面就全自動,應該玩晒
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發表於 2015-6-13 16:42:40 來自手機 | 顯示全部樓層
redrede 發表於 2015-6-13 16:41
如果針對時下嘅朋友仔,,有AF已經會好多人轉會,因為快拍影人等等係時下年青人買機因素

其實Leica走兩條 ...

This could be quite likely the future product pipeline for Leica
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發表於 2015-6-13 16:53:53 | 顯示全部樓層
我係第二個網見到部機試機相有近攝!尼部機一定好賣過X系
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發表於 2015-6-14 09:26:40 | 顯示全部樓層
Leica價值就在Leica
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發表於 2015-6-14 14:06:34 來自手機 | 顯示全部樓層
其實如果部Leica Q係用OVF + rangefinder對焦,我會覺得更加正!又或者用好似Fuji嘅hybird VF,OVF+EVF,正到爆!  名符其實ge Mini M.

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add a mount and nobody can be convinced to buy the M240...  發表於 2015-6-15 12:16
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發表於 2015-6-15 09:42:12 | 顯示全部樓層
0.95 發表於 2015-6-14 14:06
其實如果部Leica Q係用OVF + rangefinder對焦,我會覺得更加正!又或者用好似Fuji嘅hybird VF,OVF+EVF,正 ...

I think they are getting there..
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發表於 2015-6-15 10:31:50 | 顯示全部樓層
redrede 發表於 2015-6-5 07:26
即係Leica有能力做一部平既FF機仔(可換鏡頭)

有的話,可能增加返D市場

I feel *** 即係Leica有能力做一部平既FF機仔(可換鏡頭) ***
just the opposite, Leica is capable to do it, not mean it will do

The expensive price tag for the brand is advantage, not disadvantage

In history during film age, Leica partner with Minolta produced CL ... very successfully, and even risk Leica film M, so Leica need to stop it
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發表於 2015-6-15 12:59:21 | 顯示全部樓層
但係 T糸列就停滯不前……

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heard that sales is much below target...  發表於 2015-6-15 23:07
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發表於 2015-6-16 01:32:50 | 顯示全部樓層
無所謂啦,功能嘅嘢,咸魚青菜,各有所愛。

有人鍾意MF,有人鍾意AF;有人鍾意OVF,有人鍾意EVF;有人鍾意換鏡,有人鍾意一鏡走天涯;有人鍾意28,有人鍾意35。

總之,啱用嘅,買嚟玩下~Leica嘢,無死錯人嘅~

不過,言歸正傳,講來講去,大家講機身、講function、講性能就多,但講image quality,似乎少dddd。

說到底,相片質素先係重點。

有無已入手嘅師兄可以分享多少少實拍相片~?

其實,相片質感係咪似M240?如果係,我諗我可以慳返。M240同M-P,我前後都放棄了,賣出了。都係因為眷戀M9嘅相片質感。我始終覺得,M240嘅相,太似A7。

不過,聞說Leica Q個sensor係全新,不同於M240,未知相片質感如何?

有無發覺,我係重視"相片質感",rather than "color rendition"。因為我覺得,color我LR點執都得,但質感就好難後製。

其次,鏡頭表現如何?sharp,我expect一定係架啦!Leica ASPH lens都唔sharp就死得囉!反而想知,立體感?透視感?Bokeh?如何呢?

上網睇review,3D pop up effect好勁,估唔到28鏡可以咁有透視感。但網上review嘅samples,9成9 PS過,好難作準。

所以,熱切期望現役用家可以分享下~

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發表於 2015-6-16 01:41:30 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 0.95 於 2015-6-16 01:48 編輯
photoinsc 發表於 2015-6-15 12:59
但係 T糸列就停滯不前……

Japanese lens, but German price tag.

I think the "Japanese lens" is the fatal reason for Leica T's failure even though the build quality of the camera body is so impressive. The build quality of the lens is toooooo cheap as a Leica glass.

If the lens are Made in Germany, I believe the fate of Leica T will be better.
Anyway, it seems Leica never clarifies which Japanese company makes the lens. It's the main problem. To most Leica fans, a true Leica glass can only be made in Germany or even Canada.

Japanese Leica glasses? No way..........
If Leica T + Zoom kit ? Why not X Vario ?
If Leica T + 23mm ? Why not X 113?

Both of X 113 and Vario are Made in Germany. A True and Real Leica glasses but at a cheaper price tag than Leica T set.
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 樓主| 發表於 2015-6-16 13:37:24 | 顯示全部樓層
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發表於 2015-6-16 14:37:03 | 顯示全部樓層
其實呢部機仔我真係幾like, 不過我有既係耐心!

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I like it too! I think I will buy the next model if it have detachable lens... more like a Leica T/Q combo.  發表於 2015-6-16 14:47
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發表於 2015-6-16 14:40:15 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 Pandachief 於 2015-6-16 14:46 編輯

I enjoy reading 0.95 ching's comments. Quite all rounded and good summary.

I think CMOS sensor can never give you the "texture" of CCD.  Older CCD sensors of old Nikon camera or Olympus also give you very good saturated colour too, when compare to their newer CMOS cameras.  I remember when I use a Olympus E5, under good lighting, the colour was very charming.

For a day to day camera, AF, CMOS and movie etc. make a lot of sense. I like the Leica Q too and look forward to their future Leica Q/T combo, which should be a FF CMOS with changeble lens.  I believe this should be what Leica offer next.

For rangefinder, it make a lot of sense to keep our M9-P for the CCD alone. M240 is a good camera too and IMO the best CMOS performance out there, the tuning of colour is very very good.. I don't see any of the "greyish" colour on many other CMOS cameras...

0.95 ching, my guess is that the lenses of the X series and probably Q probably also made in Japan (or partial) but since they were finally assembled in Germany the entire camera can be called "Made in Germany" as a package.  In Leica T case, since the lenses were seperated, they cannot call the lenses "Made in Germany".  This is just my guess.... of course Leica S lens also made in Germany with AF so they do have the skills and facilities to produce AF lens in Germany.
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發表於 2015-6-17 22:14:45 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 Kanedias 於 2015-6-17 22:31 編輯

I have got the chance to try out Leica Q at the Kyoto Leica store today. Although I would hate to admit it as a die hard RF fan, I have to say that it is very nicely implemented.

They have incorporated a few interesting features:

1. The switch from normal and Marco mode is by pushing a ring over the lens (inward and outward). You could see the distance scale of the lens changes while you switch to macro mode.

2. The switch from AF to MF is by one additional click stop of the focussing tab. You focus to infinity as usual like on a MF, and then the last click stop beyond infinity would bring you to AF (together with the pressing of a catch release).

3. The focus peaking is nicely done. At least much better than Sony which always shows a huge patch of highlighted focus. Basically I always need to manually magnify to confirm focus for my A7.

4. AF is snappy and fast. I am not sure if it is sales talk or not, the sales guy told me the AF speed is even faster than Leica S. The only possible reason I could think of is maybe of the frame size reasons? (Like m43 usually focus quicker than full frame)

When I told the sales gentleman that the leicaphiles in Hong Kong are half disappointed by Leica releasing a 28mm instead of 35mm, he told me on the contrary, the reception is very good in the japan. Japanese like 28mm a lot and they are excited about Leica choosing this focal length to release the first ever full frame.

I tend to think Leica indeed make some effort this time. Although it did not appeal to me, I do hope it sells well, as Leica do need another flagship to survive. After all, they have used up 5 out of their 26 chances already...

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I can guarantee that Q AF is much faster than S 006! Much much faster!  發表於 2015-8-26 15:57
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發表於 2015-6-18 03:58:39 | 顯示全部樓層
Actually, if Leica Q is NOT a FF camera, if Leica Q is JUST an APSC camera.....

Will Leica Q still be quite a hot potato ?

It seems everyone praises Leica Q or crazy about Leica Q just cos of it's FF sensor.

Honestly, the technologies of Leica Q have no any breakthrough. Sony maybe smiles at the back and says " Ohhhhh.....Leica Q ~ Leica finally can reach our technological level of 2012 when RX1 was released."

Everyone is crazy about Leica Q cos it's a new toy~.

However, how about image quality ? seldom talk.

Or in other words, How special is it ?

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Red dot感覺值好多,外型等都係未知價值hehe, 始終有一班鍾意玩器材  發表於 2015-6-18 08:20
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