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K11

Hi ww129 Ching

I'm use jinro only, no preamp but will consider in future!
As you know PSVANE WE211, Elrog 211, KR211 and vintage GE211, what's different for use in Jinro?

Thanks!!!

ww129

K11 發表於 2018-10-17 02:30
Hi ww129 Ching

I'm use jinro only, no preamp but will consider in future!

Hi K11 Hing,

I have not yet tried GE211, so I am afraid I cannot make any comment on it.

For Psvane WE211, Elrog ER211 and KR211, I personally prefer KR211 over the other two.

Psvane WE211 has very good value-for-money. It has significant improvement over the  stock 211 of Jinro in all aspects and can deliver a warmer sound, stronger bass and better sound stage. I regard the price tag and the ability to deliver a comfortable mid-range, especially on vocal, are its strengths.

The ER211 and KR211 are on another level though. Both are a big step forward over the Psvane WE211. However, I found the way they improve the listening experience is quite different.

To make it short, the sound delivered by ER211 has very good balance in all sound range. It is a very quite tube and has very appealing analytical power with clean, pure bass. Overall feeling is that it has more "hifi" sound.

On the other hand, KR211 is similar to ER211 in nearly all aspects but seems to have a little bit stronger and well-defined bass but slightly less analytical power, which makes it sound warmer and less "hifi".

After all, it all comes down to personal taste and preference in choosing which one you like.

Btw, I noted that Elrog has recently issued a drop-in replacement for 211 tube, named ER242C. According to Thomas Mathew, it is a replica of Western Electric WE242C with a higher price tag of the ER211. I love to audition ER242C but yet to have the chance

Btw, the Jinro can preform much better with a good tube preamp. I was dosed by JCR33 Hing and replaced my long-using Airtight ATC-1 by Kondo KSL-M7 and the result is very satisfactory indeed.

K11

Thanks to ww129

I also have chance to audition ER242C on Kondo ONGAKU with Thomas preamp, very very good performance and sweet sound but the price is double on ER211

As your recommend, I will have a good chance to choose KR211 to replace the stock 211!

For the future, I 'm agree with you, Jinro can preform much better with a good tube preamp,. I also very like KSL-M7 but over budget to me, how about AN M6 or M6 Signature?

ww129

K11 發表於 2018-10-17 11:09
Thanks to ww129

I also have chance to audition ER242C on Kondo ONGAKU with Thomas preamp, very very ...

Of course ANUK preamp should match well with Jinro as they are from the same family.

Having said that, ANUK M6 is never my cup of tea despite I like M8 and M10

K11

無計 我都好鍾意M8，但要睇餸食飯

ww129

K11 發表於 2018-10-17 21:34
無計 我都好鍾意M8，但要睇餸食飯

No hurry, one step at a time

That said, I would suggest you trying out Kondo preamp as well.

Meanwhile, how was the ER242C sounded like on Ongaku?

K11

Very very good sound, quite, excellent control especially on bass as you say very HiFi

K11

A New series of 211 tube by PSVANE

ww129

K11 發表於 2018-10-23 09:03
A New series of 211 tube by PSVANE

Replace the two driver tubes as well to tune the sound to suit your taste.

You will probably find it amazing on the different sound effect these two small tubes bring.

K11

Any suggestion?

K11

Also, do you know what different for Kondo G70 and M7Line ?
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ww129

K11 發表於 2018-10-24 01:18
Any suggestion?

The preferred combination of tubes depends on your other equipment, especially speakers, the types of music you normally listen to, and your taste.

Having said that, I am using Tung-Sol black plate D-getter 5687 and Yugoslavia old Ei smooth plate ECC82. This combination together with KR211 delivers very smooth musical sound without feeling too "hifi". Btw, Peter Qvortrup once said he liked E182CC (7119 equivalent) best. I have tried Holland Amperex 7119 before but found it too "hifi" for me. You may also wish to try Brimar or Mullard CV4003 if you prefer a warmer Briton sound.  

I am not too sure about the technical difference between Kondo G70 and KSL-M7. The sound, however, is different through a brief audition.

To me, G70 delivers more modern sound with everything in good focus and details. On the other hand, listening to KSL-M7 is simply like listening to good music and dragging you deeper into the music. Some audiophiles, like me, do prefer the sound of KSL-M7 over G70.

IMHO, both G70 and KSL-M7 are very able preamplifier and are not bad at all. At the end of the day, it all comes down to your taste.

K11

多謝謝 ww129 師兄意見

K11

ww129

Great

How do you feel about the Psvane?

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