Cheap medium format macro cameras?

simon.chung

(唔知post去邊, 所以喺呢度問)

而家主要都係影 Leica / rangefinder film, 心郁郁想試吓影 medium format 嘅 macro, 我諗會係影 slide 多

請問有冇平嘅相機介紹呢？因為都係玩玩吓嘅心態，所以唔想花太多錢...

kgv

If OK with film, why not Contax 645 + 120/4 Macro

bytfung

Hasselblad 同 Pentax 645 + 120 Macro 亦可

Jason

Mamiya RZ 67

http://www.blackandwhitefineart.net/2011/01/rz67proii-macro/

Wohtip

RZ67 真係平到不得了。

VVII

ROLLEIFLEX 3.5F加rollinar 1又平又輕鬆

Jason

Wohtip 發表於 2013-10-4 14:08
RZ67 真係平到不得了。

mamiya rz 好嘢嚟架，平到飛起！

我都入咗套 RZ IID 加幾支鏡 65 L-A, 110, 180。
玩 macro 既話， 支 140 應該唔錯。

simon.chung

多謝！

我上網再做咗少少功課，好似 Mamiya 幾大部？Hassel 細部啲同多啲鏡揀，但有少少唔想玩多個 system...

再睇吓 Contax 645 同 Pentax 645 先

VVII

simon.chung 發表於 2013-10-4 15:12
多謝！

我上網再做咗少少功課，好似 Mamiya 幾大部？Hassel 細部啲同多啲鏡揀，但有少少唔想玩多個 system ...

PENTAX 645 N2 AF對焦比CONTAX645快好多，而且P鏡頭比C鏡頭平。

simon.chung

VVII 發表於 2013-10-4 15:35
PENTAX 645 N2 AF對焦比CONTAX645快好多，而且P鏡頭比C鏡頭平。

而家都有啲偏向買 Pentax, 因為平.  而且有 macro 同 auto-focus - 呢兩樣都係 film M 做唔到

如果再俾多啲咁不如買 Hasselblad, 不果又係另一個黑洞...

VVII

simon.chung 發表於 2013-10-5 10:53
而家都有啲偏向買 Pentax, 因為平.  而且有 macro 同 auto-focus - 呢兩樣都係 film M 做唔到

如果再俾多 ...

哈蘇也不貴（相對徠卡），不過哈蘇唔系幾好玩而已。

duncanwong

Hasselblad is an Icon in 120 format
Worth to try, as part of your medium format journey

Chak411

For Marco Rolleiflex SL66 is good
Bellow focus, tilt function incorporated, invert-mount-able lens

khw

Think about the reliability, I pick Hasselblad 500 series. It is an icon as well. NASA bought Hasselblad from camera shop for their space programme. And now one can buy a similiar camera starting from such a low price.

This one is I bought from USA, a kind of auction of government surplus last year.

simon.chung

而家都係想買 500c/m 多啲

之前好多時為咗貪平會買咗啲用一陣就唔用嘅器材... 都係一步到位 :-)

VVII

simon.chung 發表於 2013-10-7 09:35
而家都係想買 500c/m 多啲

之前好多時為咗貪平會買咗啲用一陣就唔用嘅器材... 都係一步到位 :-) ...

注意2點（個人見解）

1. 哈蘇的蔡司鏡頭鏡頭偏淡（相對rollei）
2. 哈蘇對於不熟操作的用家來說，很容易就JAM機

kgv

VVII 發表於 2013-10-7 09:52
注意2點（個人見解）

1. 哈蘇的蔡司鏡頭鏡頭偏淡（相對rollei）

“很容易就JAM機”  

Chak411

It is not easy to take marco with Hassel.
I owned Hassel with 120/4 Marko-planar before, the lens can go to 1:4 (at 0.8m) only alone.
It needs tubes to make it focus closer.
and also need to manually calculate the lost of light due to close focus as there are no TTL lightmeter.

kgv

I like the autofocus of Contax645.
The focusing speed is slow only for the first shot you take after turning on from cold state.
All the subsequent shots are fast enough, for me.

After all, for MF camera, how fast do you need?
You are not using it for street snaps nor sports shots, are you?

simon.chung

I think mostly I just want to try out medium format.  Macro is not really a must (I raised this point mostly because I can't do Macro with Leica M, so it would be good if the MF system can do this)

One big limitation is the size of my dry cabinet - so probably I'm just going to buy one MF system (on top of Leica M)

So I think in that sense Hasselblad is a better choice?