Leica Black Paint Hints and Tips - Tips #4 updated

Pandachief

Is there interest in Leica Black Paint camera here? I became more and more critical in assessing Leica Black Paint and almost need to give up in collecting it because there just not much out there that I feel comfortable with. We should be very picky when it comes to collecting vintage, that's part of the fun, otherwise.. why bother?

I would like to share one tips per day in this thread. Let's see how long this thread can last! Of couse, discussions are welcome!! But let's keep the discuss on the one tips shared per day!!

I have no intention to write technical information that you can easily search in books or internet. This is more a personal observation and sharing. Hopefully it is something interesting that you don't see mentioned in any Leica books.

These are just my personal opinion and observation. Feel free to correct me if I am wrong!

Pandachief

Pandachief Tips #1

Let's start wtih an easier one for our beginner Black Paint collectors as well:

Only the vintage M2, M3 and M4 black paint will show some forms of bubbles in the paint. Newer black paint such as M6, MP3 etc. will probably never develop bubbles due to the paint used. The bubble are caused just by exposing the Black Paint Camera in the air and moisture and even the very new condition one will have a few developed. If there's no bubbles developed on a M2, M3 or M4 black paint, please beware.  Repaint can look very beautiful and real but so far it is still not easy to "artificially" make those bubbles.

I will try share a pic shortly.

wesley

scared me.... my M4 BP doesn't have any bubbles... the paint is just not that glossy type like MP & LHSA M6

Pandachief

wesley 發表於 2013-9-5 10:15
scared me.... my M4 BP doesn't have any bubbles... the paint is just not that glossy type like MP &  ...

BP M4 is relatively newer and there's chance that bubbles are not as obvious or not showing yet...... Furthermore, there's not much fake Black Paint M4 out there because there's plenty out there and still not so expensive. The cost of a chrome M4 and to commission a good repaint technician to repaint it is not cheap compare to a real one.

So M4 should be relatively "Safe".

M4 should be glossy black paint. Early M3 and M2 and MP original will have a more matt black paint.

wesley

Not very glossy, but can't say it's matt.... difficult to describe....

Anyway I trust the seller, it's original

Pandachief

Very new and it looks right to me as a original black paint camera from many other evidents. A good one!

Again, I am saying, only M2, M3, M4, MP original or other black paint M camera in that era will show bubbles, doesn't mean there won't be any out there that without that's real. Again, assessing Black Paint should be a combintation of many many different areas to form final judgement.

ballgor

I see I see! Learning!!!!

Carson

Thanks for sharing!

M3fans

wesley 發表於 2013-9-5 10:28
Not very glossy, but can't say it's matt.... difficult to describe....

Anyway I trust the seller,  ...

好正的Black Paint M4  

bubu

Pandachief 發表於 2013-9-5 10:19
BP M4 is relatively newer and there's chance that bubbles are not as obvious or not showing yet.... ...

How big would these bubbles be?

I have a well-brassed M4 that has bubbles over the left-behind paint area. They are as tiny as a toothpick tip. But the paint is glossy, not matt to my eyes.

Kanedias

正！擔定凳仔等學野！

jaos

thx for sharing

LanLan

Thanks for sharing Ching! Waiting for the remaining tips

M3fans

Looking forward to seeing the next one

Skkypole

Thanks for your help, Panda.   I also dig out an old link from LFC, it's a great reference to share.
黑漆專題black paint story

0.95

正post !!

雖然無錢玩vintage black paint，但可以入嚟睇吓學吓嘢，可以加深對bp嘅認識！

多謝Pandachief ching開post及其他師兄嘅分享！

lc7535

Skkypole 發表於 2013-9-6 09:50
Thanks for your help, Panda.   I also dig out an old link from LFC, it's a great reference to shar ...

係唔係邀请Soxxx9兄出台嚟发表发表更精彩？

Btw, 多谢版主分享！

ic112

lc7535 發表於 2013-9-6 21:00
係唔係邀请Soxxx9兄出台嚟发表发表更精彩？

Btw, 多谢版主分享！

有Pandachief 兄，需要嗎?

lc7535

ic112 發表於 2013-9-6 21:26
有Pandachief 兄，需要嗎?

Ching 也有point

kgv

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